244. A reason to rise with your voice
If you’ve ever felt a nudge to use your voice but hesitated, this is the episode for you.
Nadine Muller is a powerhouse. A leader, a healer, and the author of A Reason to Rise—a deeply moving book that weaves her extraordinary life experiences into a rallying call to unshackle yourself and live the life you’re meant for. From growing up in a violent home to enduring devastating loss, Nadine’s story is one of strength, softness, and soul.
In this episode, we dive into:
✨ The emotional process of recording her audiobook (and why she kept the trembles in)
✨ Her beautiful ritual of stillness before speaking
✨ How to own your voice through both vulnerability and power
✨ Why your story—your true story—deserves to be shared
You’ll walk away with a renewed sense of reverence for your voice and a reminder that you are not just speaking for yourself—you are echoing the lineage of those who came before you, and those who’ll come after.
🎧 Let’s rise.
transcript
Welcome to our first guest episode of Season 13 of That Voice Podcast! The woman you're going to hear from today-- I met this incredible woman in a speaker training room on the Gold Coast a couple of years ago. She leads an amazing mission to help people awaken their potential and live a life of abundance and purpose. That's what it's all about. I am talking about the amazing Nadine Mueller. Now, I always knew Nadine was pretty extraordinary, but it wasn't until I read her book, which is called A Reason to Rise, that I really got an insight into what she's overcome, including a near death experience growing up in a violent home and suffering immense loss.
I'll link to Nadine in the show notes so you can get to the book. My book Voice Print is actually coming out through the same publisher, so that's nice alignment there. In this episode, we talk about Nadine's experience recording her audiobook and how she prepares herself before speaking, and it's an inspiring rallying call to, in Nadine's words, unshackle yourself and step into the life you are meant to live, and use the voice you are blessed to have. Oh, it's so good. Let's do this.
Sally:
Nadine Muller, it is such a joy to have you on the podcast. I've been wanting to speak to you on here for so long. Welcome.
Nadine:
Thank you so much, Sally. I'm so glad we could create this beautiful time and this pocket of time to, to chat and connect today again after all this time, knowing each other.
Sally:
Nadine, what a superwoman, what you've created and what you've been through is just extraordinary. So give us a bit of an overview. First question, what would you say the role of your voice is or has been in building your business?
Nadine:
Yeah, what a question. Right, and one that I could speak to for hours. You know, I talk about both the book and my voice as being its own heartbeat, its own life force, if you will. You know, this book that's been out and published out into the world, into the hearts and homes and, you know, offices and, and you know, hands and ears of so many, and yet the voice that it has, not just of mine, when I jump on podcasts or speak on stages or at events, you can hear my voice as you read it when I say it is, you know, stories of course, that I've had the pleasure and the, the absolute privilege to walk through myself. It's also the voices of so many beautiful women that I've had the pleasure of serving, and then back lineages and generations of voices before me echoes, if you will, of voices before me too. So, you know, when I say life force, it has its own, when I say heartbeat, it's had, it has its own, aside from my own voice that I get to beautifully share.
Sally:
Oh, yes, I love that. As you know, I'm writing a book called Voice Print, and there's a whole chapter called Prolong Your Print, and it's about how our voice leaves echoes when we leave the room and when we leave this earth as well, because it echoes through the lineage. So with the audio book, take us through the process of recording that,
Nadine:
My goodness, what a cathartic experience that is. Blew my socks off, how cathartic it was. And now the reason being is because you go in there and I have so much of a practice and so much of a way of speaking and using my voice before I do it. And I knew that this needed the reverence and you know, the absolute time and attention and devotion when I stepped in there after, you know, sitting with some stillness. I talk about my practice of stillness before I speak. My spaciousness, before I speak, "Soulitude". Soul as in "Soul". Soulitude before I speak and doing that absolutely. With so much reverence before I stepped into that room, it was just such an embodied out of body experience. So what I mean by that, again, speaking into what we just shared, realizing that this book was not just my story, it was the story of so many others before me.
Nadine:
It was the story of the little girl within me. It was the story of my mother line, grandmother line, and so many other before me and I, and I won't even say the feminine, I've got so many beautiful stories in there as part of the tapestry of the book that goes through my father line too. So it's such a dance between the feminine and the masculine. Just the opening credits was like, Whoa, this is going to be an experience for myself and the reader and the listener, and I'm gonna damn sure and damn certain that I bring this voice and this message home. There's actually some components of the audio that has some, what most people would say would be errors, right? And I remember my publisher and the audio coach at the time, and the, you know, there's a whole team with you as you do, and they said, do you wanna edit that out or what, what would you like to do?
Nadine:
Because they knew, you know, when Nadine Muller was gonna do this book, it was gonna be different. And I said, Absolutely not. Yes. There were some things I was like, let's do that part again because, you know, let's align that with the former sentence and, and whatnot. Though there are some magical components through that book that a lot of people would say that's, that's a squeaky voice, or that's a, that's a tremble in the voice. And I said, that's absolutely perfect. That's a raw and vulnerable part that I want the reader to hear and I want the, the audio to, to really, you know, get that message across. And it's been one of the most incredible things to hear that feedback from the listener and to go, Whoa, you know, chapter seven, chapter seven is about caregiving. Chapter eight is about deep loss and, you know, grief and you can feel it. And again, that's the beautiful voice doing what it's meant to do. Imperfectly Perfect. Sharing a message.
Sally:
Yeah. Being that energetic channel for emotion. Oh, yes.
Nadine:
Just goes to show how powerful a voice really gets to be, both in the strength and certainty and then in the vulnerability and in the raw.
Sally:
Mm-Hmm. Yeah. Hearing someone's voice is the closest thing to touching them. So you're giving the readers that that real visceral experience that they can't get from reading words on a page. Mm-Hmm. So as you mentioned, you know, you spoke about caregiving, taking care of your dad, the last chapter about deep loss, devastating loss around pregnancies. How did you get through that? And not just reading the audio book, but also sharing the story so openly and vulnerably online with your audience. How do you do that?
Nadine:
Yeah, what a great question. You know, and this is why I have so much reverence and so much gratitude. A lot of my practices around, you know, daily practices, not just simply as someone that uses my voice a lot though just daily practice within self is the gratitude that I have had the absolute privilege in this lifetime and then formal lifetimes before this one, to experience what I have in order to then share it with this world. And I know with every inch of my soul, with every inch of my being, that in order for me to now be doing what I'm doing at the, at the capacity that I'm doing, leading so many, not just, you know, women, men, couples, whole family units, through sometimes their most vulnerable times right through to their, you know, most successful times of their lives, being able to walk my truth and share that and through my own story and life tapestry of that is quite literally and has been the golden threads of my experiences, Sally.
Nadine:
So it's like everything that I've walked through and had the courage to overcome has been as a result of me boldly being the one to say, I don't have to keep this to myself. Being somebody that has said, you know what? I get to use my voice as a mother myself. You know, I'm raising two little boys, you know, they hear me all the time. They're like, Yes, mom, I get it. Yes, I'm gonna use my voice. You know, how could this situation have been changed? I will say to my eldest or to my youngest, and they'll go, I know mom, what I can do here. I can use my voice. I walk around saying, I just wanna shake people all the time. If only more people just actually utilize their voice and in whatever way and capacity that gets to be, even if it's simply hey, telling one person something that they're feeling in that moment.
Nadine:
You know, for me, sharing my story online has actually been a really beautiful healing journey for me. Now, as someone who shares in a way that it's from a place of, of scar versus wound. That's, that's what I always wanna mention straight up now, it's, Hey, I've learned so much from these beautiful experiences that I've had, and in the past I didn't see them as beautiful. I saw them as very ugly, dark, deep parts of my life. Now I look at, it's a big treasure trove, Sally. I call it a reservoir. And if we were to align that even with the voice, it's like when you realize every single person has these golden threads, these treasure troves, these reservoirs of stories, that they go far beyond themselves, you'll start to realize these must be shared. I say to people all the time, start writing your book. 'cause You're probably writing one right now, and the world needs to hear it. And whether you share it or publish it, or it's a memoir that you pass down through to your generations, write your book. It has to be shared.
Sally:
Yes. Share it for others and share it for yourself.
Nadine:
Absolutely. You know, all of us are beautifully adulting, and yet inside is a little girl or little boy in all of us that just wants to be seen, just wants to be heard, acknowledged, loved in ways that they've never been loved before. And it's not choosing to blame anyone, it's just choosing to go as an adult. We then have responsibility and, and a beautiful duty to also take care, whether we're parents or not, of the little girl or little boy that still resides and lives within that, you know, when life gets busy, we tend to go, oh yeah, that part of me. No, they're with us the entire time. And, and for me, writing the book was a, was a huge honor for her. And to bring her to the forefront, I had to grow up really quick, Sally. As you know, and for those listening to my book, I had to grow up super fast and I missed a part of my childhood that I know to be true, though I chose to and I choose to right now and every day, buy that beautiful time back for her.
Nadine:
I have so much fun now because I know and, and so much plague and joy and adventure now because for a long period of time, as a little girl, I had to just be the adult in a world where I should have just been the little kid rolling around in a fairy costume or, you know, riding around in my bike just doing what, you know, five year olds, seven year olds, eight year olds, 10 year olds do. I had to grow up so fast that, that voice of mine, instead of being the voice of fun and playing adventure, it was the voice of being, or trying as I should say, to be the adult. So again, the acknowledgement at the end for the book was like, who is this for? Who is this? Who can this be for? And what little girl can take a stand for so many other little girls that people have forgotten about?
Sally:
So beautifully said. And what a good reminder to remember the little girl or little boy who is always with us. Your book is called A Reason to Rise. Who did you write it for?
Nadine:
It's called A Reason to Rise for a reason. What the book in full circle means is there's unlimited reasons to rise. Every single moment can be a reason. If we choose it to be every part of us, every, every visceral part of us can be a reason. And, and then even more so, your singular reason of that little girl in you that gets to still live on despite whatever she endures or encounters or is gifted with. The book really does go on such a journey. And it's a reminder to anybody that if you are in a high right now, enjoy it because you never know what's right around the corner. And conversely, if you are on a, in a deep low or a deep time of your life where you're like, I can't possibly take on any more, you know, universe, why me? Why me?
Nadine:
And if you're there, you also know that on the other end could be, if you choose it to be huge rebirth, huge reclamation, huge liberation. So it's a story whilst it is mine of growing up in a domestic violent home, in an alcohol abusive home, in a home that you know, was really unstable and yet similarly had so much love and so much passion and so much joy, despite the chaos. If you someone that has experienced huge loss in your life, whether it is personally, professionally, in relationships, in all the ways that grief, loss and sadness can be, you will resonate with the story. If you are a woman that has and been doing all the things, you've got multiple businesses, you've got a career, you're running a volunteer situation on the side. The reason why I say that is that through in the book you are, you're saying yes to all the things.
Nadine:
You're working in the tuck shop, you've got a million roles at once. You're wearing a million hats, though the one hat that you are not wearing is yourself. You're going to resonate with this book. If you feel like you are shooting yourself to death of what the world thinks that you should do, and you're aligning with, with that message, and you're ready to really unshackle yourself from the shooting, you are going to resonate with this book so deeply. And again, whilst it's a book that many women are reading, I have so many men that are reading it that are just, you know, really beautifully absorbing the message and, and the real mission behind it. And everyone is learning so much about themselves through the experience of a reason to rise, that's for sure.
Sally:
It's such a great read. And while the book has so much value, it really can't replace the work of finding your voice that can be done with good, experienced, qualified coaches. Right?
Nadine:
Absolutely. And, and we are really big on that. It's, whilst we're like, use your voice, share it, be seen, be held, be heard, acknowledged, you know, allow everything to surface when, when you are ready and even when you're not ready, be discerning of the who and the what and the where and the how, even, you know, and if you've been on a merry-go-round of a healing journey or a growth journey, or you feel like you know, what you've done so far has got you somewhere, and it's been great though, you're like, Hmm, I'm still not complete yet again, it's an invitation. There are lots of beautiful people just like us, though very few in this world I believe that are, that are doing work that, you know, a lot of people are on this merry-go-round for three decades and they've come with us, you know, for a few days or weeks or months, and they're like, Wow, I haven't experienced that before. It's, there are beautiful people doing big, beautiful, deep work out there and, and go towards those that you feel safe to do that with, for sure.
Sally:
Yes. So you do a lot of public speaking. How do you prepare for a gig?
Nadine:
Well, I don't even call them speaking gigs. These get to be transmissions, right? This gets to be utilizing your voice as an energetic exchange, not to prepare for perfection, prepare for delivery of an exchange of a way of being or a way of truth or whatever it is to pour into the heart or the soul or the ears, or, you know, however it gets to be for the listener or the reader or the person that's sitting in front of you, or the whole audience that may be in front of you, whoever it is. Whether it's one to many, right? So I talk about the three S's, which is stillness. When I say soulitude, whilst that means solo, yes, I mean soul, like SOUL and then spaciousness before you are going to channel or share a message or a truth or, or even a wisdom or knowledge you wanna hope that you're doing in that in the most integral, clean, crisp, but also a way that can get your message across or get that voice and that delivery across in a way that feels true and correct for you.
Nadine:
So when I say space and stillness and, and soulitude, I'm not operating from my mind anymore at this point. So, you know, people are like, what's the mindset tips? Before I jump on a podcast? What's the mindset tips? Before I create a reel and share a story on my Instagram? I go, the issue is to get out of your mind, to get out of the mindset, right? The, the challenge is, can you be still enough, silent enough, have enough solitude that you can drop out of the mind and no longer be in the mindset, drop into the heart set, drop into the soul set, right? The quickest way you can do that is to regulate yourself, is to actually have space, energetic space, sit in presence, sit in ceremony. If you will, sit in silence of a breath coming back to your body verse out of here, because your mind will send you on loops.
Nadine:
It'll be like there's 200 people sitting in that auditorium. There's gonna be 5,000 people watching my stories. Your soul and your heart set goes, Great. Let's absolutely lock in the most glorious of ways and share this so that every single person feels this. You may at that point, if it's somebody that is spiritually connected, you may call in someone to support you. If you are deeply spiritually connected, you already know that. You do not need to call them in. They're already there though. You've just gotta be brave enough to listen before you do. So it's just an invitation for those listening right now. Where are you operating from? Only your mind. Where can you actually quieten down your mind and actually share from a place where your soul can be heard? There's not even a millimeter of perspex closing at heart. It is wide open. And are we brave enough, courageous enough to share our voice and our message and our mission in a way where that's unbridled, that's untamed. And when you speak that truth and you come from that place with those S's in mind. Your message, no matter what your voice, no matter what, will be felt for those that are ready to feel it.
Sally:
Oh my gosh, I am in love with you. Yes, yes, yes! You know, this is why my community is called Soul Speakers because what you just so articulately expressed is exactly what we're aiming for.
Nadine:
I knew you'd love that, Sally.
Sally:
Nadine, you are such a gift to this world. I feel so privileged to know you. If someone's listening and meeting you here for the first time, where can they find you?
Nadine:
Oh, thank you Sally. Look, you can find me. There's so many things that we do here. Whenever someone says, what do you guys do? You know, we're a very multidimensional, omnidirectional, heart led mission here. I don't even call it, you know, this isn't work. This is a soul's contract at work. You know, even if I didn't want to, you know, people go, how do you have the discipline and the motivation to do this? We go, No, no, no. This is intrinsic. Even if we didn't want to, we couldn't not. So yes, we run retreats, yes, we run workshops. Yes, we run incredible events and we also do, you know, a lot of beautiful divine work for people privately when it comes to clearing a lot of, whether it's traumas or past beliefs that are no longer of service or connecting spiritually in ways where you get to beautifully expand your vision and version of what you know is true and correct in this world right now.
Nadine:
We love speaking it from there. And the best place for you to discover and see and have curiosity over, you know, the work that we do here, both for men and women, and then couples and families are over on my Instagram. So you can find me @NadineMuller or my incredible husband, my life accomplice. He does a lot of our men's work. When men do the work, women heal. When women do the work, our men heal. When both do the work our children heal. And when the children heal our humanity, our whole world heals. So that's the the order in which we choose to beautifully see our work land on in and we can have a chat 'cause there's so many places to start and, and there's not any right way. It's the right way for you.
Sally:
Nadine, you and Dane are just such fantastic people and it really warms my heart that people like you are doing the work you do. Thank you so much for joining me on That Voice Podcast.
Nadine:
Thank you so much Sally. And to those of you that have reserved space to listen in, we thank you for, for choosing to do that over your sacred time of 24 hours a day. And you're here listening to this. We thank you so much, and to you, Sally, thank you for providing spaces and being the essence of someone utilizing your beautiful voice to share an impact and leave a legacy behind as well. So thank you, to you.